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if someone on UF would call on DesertRat66 to explain why he still quotes material from Rush Limbaugh to support his political points. Yeah, and if DR66 has the balls to respond, smack the hell out of him with this. That'd be nice.

It won't be the same doing it here, since he made his humanitarian appeal over there. Yeah, the same thing he is weeping for is being ridiculed by one of his icons. Still, his blind faith in conservativism won't let him see the evil.

Of course, I know it's not going to happen, because UF is emasculated. When someone posts something incredibly stupid, you aren't allowed to call them on it. It was such a great place once.

*sigh*
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Rush?

Date: 2004-12-10 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
When? In the gun debate?

Er...

Date: 2004-12-10 10:23 am (UTC)

Re: Er...

Date: 2004-12-10 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
I take that as a "no." When did DR quote Rush Limbaugh? I missed it.
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
Now that you've clarified I can answer. It was meant in general. If you saw the way that DR66 demonized me for pointing out his logical fallacy, then you'd realize just how big a grudge he can carry.

In general, DR66 often cites Limbaugh as defense against liberal complaints about Bush. Now, if he is not blinded by faith in his party loyalty, he must realize that the man he uses for defense (however lame those uses were) is actually belittling another concern that DR66 holds very dear.

And if he is consistent, DR66 will denounce Rush's latest comment and demonize him. Well, that actually wouldn't be consistent, since he'd actually be correct this time.

Nevermind, brain fart.
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
Okay. Anyway, I'll post the link for DR's perusal. See what he says. I have to run soon though.

Nice flamewar that would be, agreed.

Date: 2004-12-10 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saminz.livejournal.com
But what's the point? I am more or less carefully navigating widely around any of his posts - not just because I am a wimp (which I certainly am), but because I am too easily disgusted. And I have made an honest effort to read this Limbaugh transcript - same result. I just don't do this to myself. No way. Might consider it if I had an ever so slight hint that he would see reason. There is nothing remotely like it. I am not a martyr. There are slightly less hopeless cases, actually. The boss among them, in my view. But DR? Naah...

I may devour my own fingers

Date: 2004-12-10 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrismus.livejournal.com
before I get into another "debate" with him. It would be less painful and leave a better taste in my mouth.

Re: I may devour my own fingers

Date: 2004-12-10 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saminz.livejournal.com
Very nicely put, indeed.

Dammit

Date: 2004-12-10 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigrismus.livejournal.com
I did it anyway. What a glutton for punishment I am.

He he he.

Date: 2004-12-10 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
I didn't peruse it myself until I saw it on another site. Normally, I cannot stomach Rush, but when I knew the content of this particular tirade beforehand, and its pertinence to a particular UFie, I was able to force myself to read it. No real surprises, though. As expected. A skunk doesn't change its stripes.

WIMP!

Date: 2004-12-10 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
It took a second to find the thread you started. You totally slanted that away from showing DR the folly of his ways. Tsk, tsk. Why even bother?

Date: 2004-12-10 01:32 pm (UTC)

Makes you feel all

Date: 2004-12-10 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thewrongcrowd.livejournal.com
pussy-whipped, doesn't it. ;P Ow! OW! ...Ya know, I'm kind of enjoying this beating... ;)

It is kind of interesting watching certain people squirm while the righties neonaz neocons frolic unfettered... in a car wreck kind of way.

From: [identity profile] blackbyrd2.livejournal.com
Can't help ya today.
I find that I have no time when I'm home for UF, and hardly any for here, since I'm on (yech) dialup at home.
At work, I find that lately things have been so busy I can't even find my normal surfing time. Twice last week I stayed late, just to post the news!

I'm inclined now to let the neocons wallow in their own slops.

I was thinking the other day about urging everyone to go find a Republican forum/message board/community and join it, and then, calmly, intelligently, patiently and relentlessly bring the truth to them. Because, you know, all I do here is preach to the choir.

Then you reminded me of what debates are like on UF, where there is at least the semblance of an open mind. I started envisioning a community of people like the dipshit, or some of the people at work, and realized what an exercise in futility it would be. I don't have a stick to whack them with that's big enough to make them see.

With that in mind, I'm not sure I'll be back to UF. At least not for futility exercises. I'll work out at work, thanks.

You're welcome to your opinion, but...

Date: 2004-12-10 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I really do not believe it's been emasculated. The "care bear" meme is just plain stupid and untrue, but it's a meme so people fall for it.

People are still welcome to call others on the carpet for their stupidity. They just aren't allowed to be assholes when doing so. You know that, I believe, and as much as you apparently hate when others make false accusations based on non-facts, this is exactly what you appear to be doing.

*shrug* I know you aren't going to 'get it'. You didn't before. I just had hoped that you eventually would.

Kickstart

He he he.

Date: 2004-12-10 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's a good idea. Good luck sticking to it.

I went to a Christian forum once and argued pro-abortion. Ouch.

You flip-flopped.

Date: 2004-12-10 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
You initially understood what my "disabling" post was about, but then you listened to the strident whining of DesertRat66 (and possibly others) and completely changed your mind. So, no, you are wrong. I called him on his crap and you disabled me for it.

But the board was weaker even when I was there. Over the years you've weeded out a lot of assholes, but you've fostered a few more of a different stripe (and that doesn't mean DR66, whom I consider a good person other than politically).

Since I wasn't really referring to the "care bear" posts, I guess you missed my point. Still, just for completeness, I should say that they have definitely increased in the last few years. But that's irrelevant, not to mention undeserving of the insult you proferred.

In recent weeks I've seen some of the stupidest posts go unchallenged. Whether that's because the smart people aren't there or because they're not willing to say what they think, I can't determine. Probably a combination of both.

The issue that caused you to suggest that I was being an asshole is really your own fault. You seem to think that having a unique standard for every single poster is reasonable. That's why you held me (and probably others) to a different standard than everyone else. You don't "get" that you have to hold everyone to the same standard.

I see you never commented in this entry. Thus, I can't tell if you ever really heard the other side of the story or not. I know that you heard the other side, but I also know that you made your overly hasty permanent disabling decision without bothering to get my input (much like the Bush Regime's idea of a smooth judicial system).

So I can only wonder if you understood the seriousness of your mistake. It doesn't look like it, but maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully you'll take a moment to comment some day.

Re: WIMP!

Date: 2004-12-10 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
Sorry. Didn't feel like singling out DR like that, especially when I didn't have any posts where he cited The Hypocrite.

Poopyhead

Date: 2004-12-10 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
you're no fun! :)

He he he.

Date: 2004-12-10 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
No problem. It's a wise choice, for as you can see, even this thread is being monitored for disobedience.

What is so hard about proper capitalization?

Date: 2004-12-10 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
Jihad of the Day

Is that so difficult? Sheesh. ;-)

Re: What is so hard about proper capitalization?

Date: 2004-12-10 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
It's proper; I just forgot a comma after poopyhead. Or maybe it should have been a semicolon.

Re: He he he.

Date: 2004-12-10 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
Yeah, we've got two mods reading it. :) I did redirect him to his sniper post though. He dismissed it as irrelevant, of course.

Was that you?

Date: 2004-12-10 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
I thought it was rettyglum. Anyway, these things have a style to them. If the style wasn't perfect, I'd understand tweaking them. But I made them.

I noticed that

Date: 2004-12-10 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-real-egaeus.livejournal.com
I was wondering how you typed without fingers. :)
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