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if someone on UF would call on DesertRat66 to explain why he still quotes material from Rush Limbaugh to support his political points. Yeah, and if DR66 has the balls to respond, smack the hell out of him with this. That'd be nice.

It won't be the same doing it here, since he made his humanitarian appeal over there. Yeah, the same thing he is weeping for is being ridiculed by one of his icons. Still, his blind faith in conservativism won't let him see the evil.

Of course, I know it's not going to happen, because UF is emasculated. When someone posts something incredibly stupid, you aren't allowed to call them on it. It was such a great place once.

*sigh*

Rebuttal, Part I

Date: 2004-12-13 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
You must have a digging machine, cause that hole is getting deep really fast.

Whether it was worth a warning is debatable.

And trying to get you to debate it is almost like pulling teeth.

Yeah, I probably didn't think it was a huge issue to begin with. Hard to remember, but looks like I changed my mind. I won't apologize for that because snap decisions are often bad decisions.

Yeah, that's putting it mildly. Still, those nice links should make it easy to refresh your memory in just a few seconds of reading.

But you won't apologize because your snap decision was a bad one? Or do you mean because apologizing for having done a bad thing would be a snap decision? Either way...

I also won't apologize for the fact that no matter what I do in this situation, I come off as the bad guy to one side or another.

That shows you are more worried about appearances than fairness. If you get damned either way, why not try to feel good about the decision you made?

Fine, I can live with that.

Oh, wait, you do.

Both sides continue to act like stupid children. It's apparently getting more stupid the further this drags on so I'm just about to leave it, and visits to your blog, completely. It's not worth the compounded stress.

You continue to insult me, and you think I am the child? I think that one speaks for itself. But you "left" last time. Now you're back, and leaving again. That's your choice, of course, but I will say that it's just you running away.

You haven't seriously addressed any of my concerns. All you've done is dismiss them and insult me. And that was on purpose. Why is that?

For what it's worth (apparently nothing in your opinion, apparently), really the only reason you were kept on the board as long as you were was by my intervention and advocacy.

And after a bad decision was made by Illiad (who caved to DR's whining), and a bad job of enforcing it was done by you (to flip-flop and support it as though you were suddenly thoroughly in agreement with it), you want pity?

Though it cost me plenty, I deliberately went easy on you at the time because I knew you were under a lot of stress. In fact, most of the times I've been disabled I exhibited a lot of patience and reasonableness. Totally unlike the other parties in those affairs, given the information they made public.

Looking back now (see, changing my mind, as is my wont), I think I might have made a mistake in trying to keep you from making the board a worse place and continuing your presence there.

If you think I was making the board a worse place by challenging insulters and idiots, then you are a fool. If you could show me where I was picking on innocent people, however, I'd cheer you on for disabling me.

Changing your mind is a good thing if done for a good reason. You are doing it merely because I had the audacity to point out your recent bad judgement. I had thought you were growing out of that sort of power trip, but maybe it takes more practice than you've had a chance to do.

Rebuttal, Part II

Date: 2004-12-13 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naruki-oni.livejournal.com
I might (*gasp*) even be wrong in my pissed-off feelings at this moment and reconsider that, but I doubt it.

I doubt that you'd reconsider even if I hadn't pissed you off by pointing out a mistake you hoped would stay buried (even though you brought it all back up yourself by calling me an asshole in your first reply).

In my own mind, I think it's quite telling that even after you're permanently disabled I'm expending effort here.

It takes effort to insult me in every single post you've made here? Funny, you made it seem so effortless. I pointed you to my main entry on the issue, and you never responded to it. What you did do was to tell me you weren't going to read any more of this. And apparently you expected me to take that as a hopeful sign.

I don't give a flying fuck about 'saving face' in this situation. Feel free to misjudge me and my intentions and keep your unchanging opinions.

My opinions will change as soon as you show any evidence for them. Insulting me repeatedly is not evidence, though. If you posted on UF the way you do here, you'd have to ban yourself. Maybe, just maybe, you'll think about that.

Further, you don't have a CLUE what goes on in the background of the board and how much talk we had about disablings.

Yeah, so what? That's because you don't tell us. Still, I've been involved in such discussions myself, so maybe I do have a clue. But I don't tell you about them, so you'll never know.

Suffice it to say that permanent disablings will be much rarer than they've ever been, in favour of short term corrections.

Hooray, you do listen to my suggestions! Or else you listen after others make the same ones. This one has been a long time overdue, but better late than never.

I have little doubt at this point you will continue to fear-monger on this regard however, so my announcing this will likely be pointless.

Fuck you, too, sweetums. I haven't been "fear-mongering". I've been complaining and presenting my side of things, which it seems you have been ignorant of. Since you call it "fear-mongering", it seems you are willfully ignorant.

I am fed up with your juvenile insults delivered as though you were the adult. You are going to have to be a lot older than Slamlander before you can think to talk down to me without getting justly laughed at. He, on the other hand, will never be that old. The ass just will not grow up. (No, that's not irony, despite what you are thinking.)

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