Advances in Medical Science

[naruki_oni]

It probably won't happen here in the next four years, but in South Korea stem cell research has enabled a paralyzed woman to walk - two decades after being disabled!

On the other hand, I've heard that the Bush Anti-science ban is only on federal funding, not on the legality of doing the research. Thus, California is supposed to have funded their own research in defiance of the Neanderthal in Chief's wishes.

If true, way to fucking go, California! I almost forgive you for picking an actor rather than a good politician. (To be fair, he is a good actor in his genres.)

Comments

[mood-indigo.livejournal.com]

I support this type of research but didn't vote for that particular proposition only because California is having -severe- financial difficulties right now and I just couldn't justify spending that huge amount of money on the research (at this time). :P

Fair enough.

[naruki-oni.livejournal.com]

Unlike the conservative "Right", you understand that you can't just spend money without making money, even if you think it's something worth spending money on.

Hell, they even think they can spend more and make less! Grr.

I'd like to neuter them all. Oh, yes. I've got toothpicks.

Re: Fair enough.

[mood-indigo.livejournal.com]

I don't think I'd enjoy being spayed, thanks. And yes, you should watch where you lay that blanket of generalization, we're not all Christian or socially conservative. :| I really was thinking in a practical sense, I don't think anyone realizes what dire straits our (California's) financial situation is unless they've lived here for as long as I have which would include all the years leading up to the situation we're in, budget-wise. I strongly feel that before we can afford to pour that much money into something like this research we have to think of the -immediate- consequences first. That isn't short-sighted of me at all (referring to another's comment, not yours) considering the fact that I AM the one who has to live here and suffer this heinous budget crunch. I don't think I should have to vote for anything simply because it's setting a precedent for other states so they can say "hurrah California!" while they look down their noses on the conservative Southern state they -choose- to live in ;)

Speaking of which, Naurki...why DO you still live in the South? You're such a little flaming agnostic (agnostic "just in case", if I remember correctly) liberal! You'd be happy living in Northern California, I think. =)

You're a conservative? In what way?

[naruki-oni.livejournal.com]

I would happily neuter them all until I am made aware of a type of conservative that is actually good or neutral. At that, I think I'm being nice. But don't think liberals will get a free ride, either. They're gonna have to pay for the operations. Toothpicks aren't cheap, you know. Well, they are, but that's a LOT of toothpicks.

You've missed a lot. I have been living in Rhode Island for the last two years. Not by choice, as the best thing we have going for us is The Family Guy and the Farrelly brothers. Which are great things, but still. And I will soon be living in Japan. Within a couple of months at the soonest.

I wasn't ideologically "Southern", but the temperature was fine and Atlanta had lots of cultural access. I'd probably be a lot happier in NYC than here, though. Ah, well, moot point.

I think that's a bit short-sighted.

[johnnyorigami.livejournal.com]

Suppose, for example, that the Bush administration (showing the same kind of forward-thinking open-mindedness that won it the election in the first place) ignores the scientific and health-related benefits of stem cell research, and decrees it immoral. Quite a stretch, I know, but just try to imagine.

Now, only one state in the union, as far as I know, is looking at spending money on SCR: California. This results in several things:
1) Increased spending ($3 billion over the next 10 years, right?), which is bad.
2) New skilled jobs in a state which saw a massive loss of skilled jobs several years ago, which is good.
3) Possible (in my opinion, probable) influx of biotech companies investing in this research, which is good. (Also possible, but less likely, companies to supply the biotech market.)
4) A headstart on any other state trying to attract employment and high-tech businesses, which is good.

I've searched, and it seems that Wisconsin has a similiar initiative, but my points still stand.

You're spot on with point 2.

[thewrongcrowd.livejournal.com]

The $3 billion that California spends on SCR is an excellent economic investment that will pay returns very quickly. And they'll find that the biotech firms interested in California won't just be those doing stem-cell work.

Oh and Woo Wisconsin! We've also told the feds to go fuck themselves concerning reimportation of drugs from Canada. Yea for the mavericks.